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How Do I Get New Guest Ales and Ciders Onto My Pub's Till Before They Go On Sale?

Pubs put new guest beers on the bar before they are on the EPOS, so staff ring them on the wrong button. We set up new lines from the delivery automatically.

Updated 3 min readBy SpiderHunts Technologies

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Rotating guest beers means new products arriving every week, and adding each one to the EPOS with the right price and measures is fiddly, so staff ring guests through on a generic cask button. We create the till line from the delivery record, with a price worked out from cost and your margin rule, ready for you to approve before the cask goes on.

The guest ale button

Your pumps change every week. A new guest ale goes on at six on Friday. It is not on the till, because adding a product to the EPOS means logging into the back office, creating the item, setting pint, half and third prices, choosing the right department and adding it to the right screen. Nobody has done it yet.

So staff use the guest ale button, which has one price for all guests, even though this one is stronger and cost more. Some staff use the button for the previous guest, which is still on the screen. At the end of the week the till says you sold a lot of a beer that ran out on Wednesday and none of the one you actually poured.

Why the till lags behind the bar

EPOS systems are set up for a stable product list, with changes made in a back office that only the manager uses. Guest ales turn that assumption over: new products every week, each with its own cost, strength and price. The back office job is small each time but constant, and it happens at the same moment the cask needs to go on.

Pricing is also a judgement made in a hurry. Without a quick way to see what the cask cost per pint, prices get set by feel, and a pricier guest can end up earning less than your house bitter.

There is also a timing mismatch. The cask arrives days before it goes on, which is plenty of time to set up the till, but nothing prompts anyone to do it until the pump clip is on the bar and a customer is waiting.

What a lagging till costs

ShortcutEffect
Generic guest buttonStrong or expensive guests sold at the wrong price
Previous guest's button usedSales recorded against the wrong beer
Prices set by feelMargin on guests varies week to week
Old guests left on the till screenCluttered screens and wrong presses
Sales not matched to productsStock results and cask sales history unreliable

Guest ales are often what make a pub worth visiting for cask drinkers. They should be one of the best-run parts of the bar, not the part where the till gives up.

Till lines created from the delivery

  1. When a guest cask is recorded on delivery, its details come across: beer, brewery, strength, cask size and cost from the invoice or order.
  2. A suggested price for a pint, half and third is worked out from cost per pint and a margin rule you set, rounded the way you like to price, with bands for stronger or premium beers if you want them.
  3. You see the suggestion on your phone and approve or change it.
  4. The product is created in your EPOS through its interface or import feature, in the right department and on a guest ale screen, ready for when the cask goes on.
  5. When the cask comes off, the product is removed from the till screen, but its sales history is kept.
  6. Sales by guest beer then feed your cask rotation records and your stock figures.

What can be automated depends on your EPOS. Some systems accept new products from outside, some only by import file, and a few not at all. We check yours and tell you what is realistic.

Friday at six, with a new guest

The cask was delivered on Tuesday. You approved the suggested price on Wednesday. By Friday, the guest is on the till screen with its own buttons for a pint, half and third. Staff ring it through correctly. When it finishes, it drops off the screen and the next guest takes its place. Your sales report shows each guest separately with its margin.

  • New guest beers on the till before they go on the bar
  • Prices worked out from cost and your margin rule
  • Old guests cleared from the till screen
  • Sales history for every guest beer

Is your till behind the bar?

  • Guest ales are rung through on a generic button.
  • Guest prices are set by feel.
  • Your till screen has buttons for beers that finished weeks ago.
  • Sales reports do not show which guests sold well.
  • Only the manager can add products to the EPOS.

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Which EPOS systems does this work with?

Any that allow products to be created from outside, either by an interface or an import file. We confirm yours before building.

Can I override the suggested price?

Always. The suggestion is a starting point based on your margin rule, and you approve every price.

Does this work for ciders and keg guests?

Yes. Any rotating product can be set up the same way, with its own sizes and measures.

What affects the cost?

Your EPOS and how it accepts products, and whether the delivery and cask records already exist.

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