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How Do We Know Which Machining Quotes We Won, Which We Lost and Why?

Machine shops rarely know which part types, materials and customers they win quotes on. We build a quote register that shows win rate and loss reasons.

Updated 3 min readBy SpiderHunts Technologies

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Quick answer — TL;DR

Quote outcomes are unknown because quotes leave as PDFs from someone's email, and the only sign of a win is a purchase order turning up. We build a quote register that records every quote with its value, customer, part type, material and machine route, matches incoming orders to quotes automatically, and asks for a loss reason, so you can see which kinds of machining work you win and where your prices are out of line.

Two hundred quotes, and a feeling

Ask the estimator how many quotes went out last quarter and the answer is a guess. Ask how many were won and it is a bigger guess. There is a feeling that the aerospace brackets are always lost on price and the hydraulic blocks are usually won, but nobody can check.

Meanwhile the price list is adjusted on instinct. After losing a big turned parts package, turning rates come down across the board, even though the loss may have been about lead time, not price.

Why quotes disappear after sending

Quoting is treated as the end of a job for the estimator, when it is the start of a sale. There is no pipeline, just a sent items folder. Orders arrive without a clear link to the quote, and losses arrive as silence.

  • Quotes are sent from personal email accounts.
  • There is no list of open quotes with values and dates.
  • Follow ups depend on the estimator remembering.
  • Orders are not matched to the quote they came from.
  • Nobody asks the customer why a quote was lost.

What not knowing costs

Work that could have been won with a phone call a week after quoting. Prices set without knowing whether you are too high or too low for each kind of work. Time spent quoting for customers who never place orders. And orders placed at an old quoted price after material has gone up, because nobody spotted the quote had expired.

The quote register we build

  1. Every quote is recorded when it is sent, with customer, contact, part numbers, material, part type, quantities, value, validity date and the estimator.
  2. Quotes are sent from the register, or copied into it from the shared quote mailbox, so none are missed.
  3. A follow up task is set for each quote, by default a set number of working days after sending. The estimator or a sales person sees a daily list.
  4. Incoming purchase orders are matched to open quotes by customer, part number and reference. A PO against an expired quote is flagged before it is accepted.
  5. When a quote is closed as lost, the tool asks for a reason: price, lead time, went elsewhere, project cancelled, no response.
  6. Reports show win rate and value by customer, part type, material and estimator, and the average time to quote.
ReportWhat it tells you
Win rate by part typeWhere your pricing and capability fit the market
Win rate by customerWho uses you as a real supplier and who only checks prices
Loss reasonsWhether price or lead time is the usual problem
Open quotes by valueWhat to follow up this week
Time to quoteWhether speed is costing you work

After a few months of records

Follow ups happen, which alone wins some work that would have drifted. You can see which customers send RFQs and rarely buy, and decide how much effort to spend on them. Price changes are based on real win and loss patterns by part type rather than one lost job that stung. Orders against expired quotes are caught before you commit to an old price.

You may also find work you are quietly good at. A run of wins on thin wall aluminium parts or long slender shafts is a sign the market values that capability, and it tells you which customers and sectors to go after when the order book is thin.

Is this how your quotes are handled?

  • Nobody knows your win rate.
  • Quotes are sent from individual inboxes.
  • Follow ups happen occasionally.
  • Orders arrive against quotes nobody can find.
  • You have accepted an order at an out of date price.

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Is this a CRM?

It does part of a CRM's job, focused on quotes. If you already use HubSpot or another CRM, we can build it inside that instead.

Will the estimator have to do more admin?

A little at first. Most of the recording happens automatically when quotes are sent and orders arrive.

How do we get loss reasons?

Some come from the follow up call. Others are a best guess when the quote expires. Even rough reasons show patterns over time.

Can it connect to our MRP?

Yes, won quotes can create the sales order in your MRP where it has an API or import.

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