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How Do Window Installers Prove the Condition of Reveals, Plaster and Decor Before the Old Frames Came Out?

Window installers face disputes over cracked plaster and damaged reveals with no before photos. We build before and after photo capture filed on each frame.

Updated 3 min readBy SpiderHunts Technologies

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Quick answer — TL;DR

When a customer says new windows damaged their plaster, reveals, render or decorating, installers often have no record of how the opening looked before removal. We build before and after photo capture on the fitter's phone that prompts for inside and outside shots of every opening, files them against each frame with date and time, and makes them easy to pull up when a question arises.

A crack that was always there?

Two weeks after the install, the customer emails. The plaster around the bedroom window is cracked and a piece of the reveal has come away. They want it made good. Your fitters say the plaster was already loose and cracked when they took the old frame out, and they made good what they could. But nobody photographed it. It is their word against the customer's, and the easiest way to end it is to send a plasterer.

Outside, it might be a render crack, a disturbed brick or a gap in the pointing that the customer only noticed after the scaffold came down.

Why there is never a before photo

Fitters are focused on getting old frames out and new ones in. Photographing each opening from inside and out feels like a delay, and without a clear routine it gets skipped. When photos are taken, they sit on personal phones with no link to the job or the frame.

  • There is no routine for photographing openings before removal.
  • Photos are on fitters' phones, unlabelled and not backed up.
  • Existing damage is not pointed out to the customer before work starts.
  • After photos are not taken once the making good is done.
  • Nobody can find the photos for a particular window weeks later.

What undocumented condition costs

Making good damage you did not cause, to keep a customer happy, costs a plasterer's visit and materials. Disputes take office time and sour the end of an otherwise good job. Holding a balance over a disputed crack is common. And fitters who are blamed for damage they did not cause lose heart in the job.

Photo capture built into the fit

  1. The fitter's app lists each frame on the job, from the survey, and asks for inside and outside photos of each opening before removal.
  2. Existing damage can be marked on the photo and shown to the customer, who acknowledges it on the phone before work starts.
  3. After fitting and making good, the app asks for the same views again.
  4. Photos are stored on the job, per frame, with date and time, in your cloud storage such as Microsoft 365 or AWS.
  5. A before and after sheet for any frame, or the whole job, can be produced as a PDF in seconds.
  6. The frame cannot be marked complete in the app without the after photos, unless the fitter records a reason.
PhotoWhenWhat it shows
Inside beforeBefore removalPlaster, reveals, cill board, decor
Outside beforeBefore removalBrickwork, render, pointing, cill
Marked damageBefore removalExisting cracks shown to the customer
Inside and outside afterAfter making goodFinished opening

What your terms say about making good, and how disputes are settled, is your decision. The photos give you an accurate record to work from.

What changes when a complaint comes in

When a customer raises damage, the office opens the job and sees that window before and after, dated. Sometimes the photo shows the damage was there, and the conversation is short. Sometimes it shows something did happen during the fit, and you can put it right promptly and without argument. Either way the discussion is about evidence.

Fitters also benefit. Pointing out existing cracks before starting sets expectations and protects them from blame, and the routine takes a minute per opening.

Is this a familiar argument?

  • You have made good damage you believe was already there.
  • Fitters take photos on their own phones, if at all.
  • Existing damage is not shown to customers before removal.
  • You cannot find photos of a particular window after the job.
  • Balances have been held over plaster or render disputes.

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Does this slow the fitters down?

It adds a few photos per opening, prompted at the right moment. Most fitters find it quicker than the arguments it prevents.

Where are photos stored?

In your own cloud storage, filed against the job and frame, not on the fitter's phone.

Will this settle every dispute?

No. It gives you an accurate record. What that record shows depends on what happened.

What affects the cost?

Whether it joins an existing fitter app, how frames are listed from your survey or quote, and where photos are stored.

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