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How Do We Price Engineering Fee Proposals From What Similar Jobs Actually Took, Not From Gut Feel?

Engineering consultancy fee proposals get priced from memory and old quotes. We build a fee build-up tool from your past hours by stage and project type.

Updated 3 min readBy SpiderHunts Technologies

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Quick answer — TL;DR

Fee proposals get priced from the last similar quote and a director's instinct because the hours from past jobs are not organised in a way anyone can use. We build a fee build-up tool that shows what comparable projects actually took by stage and grade, lets the director adjust for this job's risks, and produces the fee schedule and scope text for the proposal. The director still sets the fee.

Friday afternoon, three fee requests, one director

An architect sends a request for a structural and civil fee on a primary school extension. Two other requests are waiting. The director opens a proposal from a school job two years ago, changes the name, nudges the fee up because the site looks awkward, and sends it. There is no time to check how many hours that earlier job actually took, and the timesheet system would not show it by stage anyway.

Sometimes this works. Sometimes the practice wins the job at a fee that was never going to cover the work. Sometimes it loses a job it should have won because the fee was padded out of caution.

Why pricing stays a gut call

  • Past hours are recorded by job number, not by stage, so the useful comparison is not available.
  • Projects are not tagged by type, size or construction form, so finding comparable jobs means memory.
  • Proposals are Word documents, so the fee build-up behind them is lost or was never written down.
  • Each director prices differently, so the practice has no shared view of what a stage costs.
  • Scope exclusions are copied from old proposals and do not always fit the new job.

The information to price properly exists in the practice. It is just scattered across old timesheets, old proposals and people's heads.

There is also the problem of confidence. A director who knows the practice lost money on the last three schools will pad the next school fee, and one who remembers a single profitable job will cut it. Without numbers, pricing follows memory, and memory favours the most recent or most painful job.

What guess-based pricing costs

Pricing outcomeWhat follows
Priced too lowStage overruns absorbed, or strained talks about additional fees
Priced too highLost work that suited the practice
Inconsistent between directorsClients notice, and margins vary for no good reason
Weak scope and exclusionsArguments later about what was included

There is a time cost too. Senior people spend evenings writing proposals, and repeat clients get slower responses than they should.

How we build a fee build-up tool

  1. We pull historical hours from your timesheet or accounts system and tag past projects by type, sector, size, construction form and disciplines, with your help on the ones the data cannot classify.
  2. Where old time was not recorded by stage, we estimate a split from dates and drawing issues, marked clearly as an estimate.
  3. For a new request, the director enters a few characteristics and sees comparable past projects with their actual hours per stage and grade.
  4. A build-up screen starts from those figures and lets the director adjust each stage for this job's risk, with a note explaining why.
  5. Grade rates convert hours into a fee per stage, using your current rates.
  6. The proposal document is generated from the build-up: fee schedule, stage scope, assumptions and exclusions from a clause library you control.
  7. Once the job is won, the stage fees feed straight into fee tracking, so estimated and actual hours can be compared as the job runs.

A language model can draft scope text from the architect's request and your clause library for the director to edit. It does not set the fee, and nothing is sent without a person reviewing it.

We normally begin by pulling a few years of timesheet data and sitting with a director to tag the projects. That exercise alone tends to be revealing, because it is often the first time anyone has seen how long a typical stage 2 or stage 4 really took across a set of similar jobs.

How pricing feels afterwards

A director preparing a fee starts from evidence: what the last few comparable jobs really took, stage by stage. The judgement stays theirs, but it is informed and written down, so another director can see why a fee was set as it was.

Proposals go out faster and more consistently, and each finished project improves the next estimate.

Is this how you price today?

  • Fee proposals start from a copy of an old proposal.
  • Nobody can easily say how many hours a typical stage 3 took on a similar job.
  • Different directors would price the same job very differently.
  • The fee build-up behind a proposal is not kept.
  • Won jobs regularly overrun in the same stages.

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Our old timesheets are not split by stage. Is the history still useful?

Often yes. Totals by project type are useful on their own, and stage splits can be estimated from issue dates. We flag estimates so nobody treats them as exact.

Will this tell us what to charge?

No. It shows what comparable work took and does the arithmetic. The fee is a commercial decision for your directors.

Can it produce our proposal in our own format?

Yes. The generated document uses your template, branding and clause library.

What if we have little historical data?

The tool still gives you a consistent build-up method, and its comparisons improve as each new project is recorded properly.

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